46 - Courtship and the Ten Unchangeables

[00:00:01] Hi everyone, welcome to The Cult I Left Behind podcast. I'm your host Amanda Briggs and I'm here to tell you my stories of growing up in the IBLP called Would You Might Know From The Dagger Family. And I'm your other host, Kyle Briggs.

[00:00:17] I'm Amanda's husband and I have not heard most of these stories before, so stay tuned and we'll all get traumatized together. Alright, welcome back to the next episode. We are continuing the Courtship and The Cult sub series, I guess you could call it.

[00:00:38] I don't know, we're going way deep into courtship. Amanda's got a lot in store for us with this one, so before we get into that, if you can do us a favor and drop us a review or share an episode on social media.

[00:00:55] If you're enjoying this podcast, and we would greatly appreciate it. So that being said, what do you have for today Amanda? Well, we're going to talk about courtship and the ten-unchangeables. I don't know if it did in changeables again. Which sounds innocent enough, but like it goes sideways.

[00:01:13] Real fast. I bet. Real fast. So if we remember from last week, you have the four levels of friendship that you need to apply to dating and courtship and in the first one when you're still in a quintant, so the lowest level of friendship, the least developed.

[00:01:32] You can ask questions. But remember from last week, according to Bill Gothard, if the questions are quote, two nosy, deeper friendship is not earned. Appropriate questions earned the privileged deep in friendships. Okay, so we can't be nosy in level one friendship.

[00:01:51] But your responsibility in level one friendship is to ask the questions on the ten-unchangeables. So when we look at the advanced seminar textbook or workbook or whatever it's called, as it pertains to questions on the ten-unchangeables and courtship, I don't know. I don't know. I got nothing.

[00:02:16] It's just crazy. So this segment is titled, Designing Questions to Deep In Friendships. And this isn't the book? This is yep. This is the advanced seminar workbook textbook, whatever it's called. And this is level one, a quintant. Okay?

[00:02:36] So the following questions are designed to begin at an acquaintance level and to move forward through the levels of friendships as freedom is given. They are based on the ten-unchangeables through which God works in a person's life and on the degree to which he has come to self-acceptance.

[00:02:58] So you can use these questions. It says like, these are the suggestions and you can ask more as they come to mind. So I'm surprised it didn't say as the spirit leads but as it comes to mind.

[00:03:13] So you have to start with parents because of course all relationships are centered on parents and let's just a great place to start. So you're supposed to know, you're supposed to find out the parents first names.

[00:03:27] But it says, note first names of parents should not be used unless given permission. They should be Mr. and Mrs. OK. Last name. And then the second question you need to ask a potential romantic partner. Okay?

[00:03:43] Your potential romantic partner, you need to ask them, do you think your parents know the meaning of their names? This is very important to develop and create potential marriage relations. So these are, are these questions you should be asking somebody after like they've

[00:04:02] already went and talked to your father? Yes. Because you can't talk to them before they talk to your father. Kyle have you learned nothing in this whole podcast? Like you had no autonomy of no authority, especially of your female. Nothing is happening unless you dad says so backwards.

[00:04:20] So backwards. It's hard to keep straight because it's like so, it just doesn't make any sense. So I'm like, I know the answer to these questions and I'm like, it does make any sense. OK, so I have, I just thought of this Kyle.

[00:04:35] This is my suggestion for you in this episode. I want you to imagine us at the beginning of our relationship and what you two imagine me asking you these questions. OK, like just put yourself in that frame of mind because this is like what would happen to people?

[00:04:57] This is probably the episode where they need to see my face. Probably this face has already been doing crazy things folks. His jaw is already on the floor and we're like a minute in. OK, so then the third thing you ask is when is your parents anniversary?

[00:05:16] Is that really your? What else I have to do with the people that are trying to hook up here? Because parent not hook up. Absolutely not. But parents are everything. Your whole relationship is actually about your parents and being a mappy.

[00:05:35] Your homework should you choose to accept it? It's to go back and real listen to like this whole fucking podcast or we talk about how you was a human do not actually matter and all that matters is your authority figures.

[00:05:46] It will be interesting to go back and listen to it. See how far you've come. Yes, the way how naive I was to the cult. OK, then the next question is where did your parents and grandparents grow up? OK, like that's a little more normal. Who's normal?

[00:06:05] But not really essential to like a romantic relationship. No, normally you're just asking questions about the person. You're getting to know the person. We'll find out about that. You don't get to know that a lot. To like way later. No, that's bad. Can't do that.

[00:06:19] What does your father do for a living? You can't just make faces. You got a sick person. Prison card. Please officer. Iron hit man. I had no idea. Your father actually did. I had to think about it for a second. But I know.

[00:06:43] In what church did your parents grow up? So you have to... It's just a weed that find out if they were the cult. Well, I mean, there are reasons for each of these questions. So I'll just like highlight the extra weird ones.

[00:06:57] So where the parents and grandparents grow up, it so you can understand national heritage. Of course. Uh-huh. And then when you ask what the father does through for a living, you're supposed to think through questions to ask the father about his job.

[00:07:10] Keep in mind we don't care about the mother. Like, women. Well, she can't have a job. Right. But also like, who needs the women? Mm-hmm. So we're not going to ask them any questions about themselves or like, you know them in any way. That's meaningful.

[00:07:26] I mean, why would you? So with the church thing, you need to understand the religious background of the family. And then of course, the last question you need to make sure you ask about parents is, when did your parents become Christians,

[00:07:42] so that you can learn this spiritual heritage? Shouldn't the father have asked these questions beforehand? Well, yes. But now you're trying to get to know this person. Oh, okay. Uh-huh. You've already decided if you're going to marry them before you decide if you're in love with them.

[00:08:00] But you're asking questions that don't actually matter because the vetting has already been done. Yes, but this is how you could determine if you're... No. No. No. There's no autonomy here. Absolutely none. All right, so the next one changeable is time in history.

[00:08:18] So of course, we're going to ask questions about that. Like where were you born? How old are you? And then it says with that note, this is not appropriate to ask of most adults. Ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha. Ha-ha. Um...

[00:08:37] And then because this is very surface level and not at all nosy, you need to ask when you reach the end of your life like what do you want to look back on and say that you have accomplished? That escalated quickly. Yes, you need to learn your friend

[00:08:52] because they're not your romantic partner. Friend, you need to learn your friend's purpose in life. So again, they need that 80-year plan that includes their deathbed. If they don't have it, they are not marriage material move on. Okay. What special interests do you have?

[00:09:09] Like hobbies, life issues, sports interests that are important to this person. Ha-ha. Ha-ha. When you have free time, how do you enjoy using it? Discover how your friend invests leisure time, which like the wording on that, remember we can't really have leisure and we can't really have fun.

[00:09:33] So it's an investment and you need to judge and assess it for holiness. You can't take your time. No, we did the ten-on changes episode and it never crossed my mind that this was going to loop back around and tie into courtship.

[00:09:56] I don't know why I didn't make that connection, but I didn't think it was going to happen. Because it's not really related to romantic relationships unless you're middle of God there then... I mean, it kind of does contextually because these are the things

[00:10:12] that they cared about and you, of course, you would need to vet your potential partner for these ten-on changeables. Okay, this one's real funky. What is your favorite time of the year? Super normal question, right? Watch how unnormal we can make it in a cold. Okay?

[00:10:31] Find out whether your friend enjoys indoor or outdoor activities is still normal. Whether he has accepted his present climate and what health problems he might have. Because if you have an accepted your present climate, you might be better. Oh no. We, you know, and that causes health problems.

[00:10:53] So you need to find out the health problems this person has. I don't want to be able to know what to say. Okay, and then... How did you move his life in an option? Nope. That means you have an accepted yourself for an in-cial.

[00:11:15] How did you become a Christian? To certain whether he has experienced genuine salvation and whether he has the witness of the Holy Spirit within because remember folks, you can be saved the wrong way. So we have to make sure he saved the right way.

[00:11:30] Also, do you realize that all of these questions are the female asking the male? Mm-hmm. The coercion option for being saved? No. Then you're relying on your own fear instead of Jesus' Savior. These are literal things I lost sleep over as a young child.

[00:11:52] Trying to figure out if my fear, if my salvation was fear-based instead of faith-based. So sometimes she rebuttles to my sarcasm. I'm not expecting you to have a can answer that you were taught to say. Give this one to that. Okay, so then we get to gender.

[00:12:17] One of the unchangeable according to the cult. So now we ask them do you know the meaning of your name? Mm-hmm. Which I don't know how that pertains to gender unless you're specifically looking at traditionally male or female names.

[00:12:31] But that seems like it would fall under a different category to me. But we can't have logic. What was your first childhood ambition? So that you can learn the early influences upon your friend. Gotta make sure they were godly and patriarchal.

[00:12:48] Why do you think God made you the gender he did? So you can find out his understanding of purpose specifically. Your confused face is very interesting. I thought you were going to go with that look. Where the book was going to go with that one?

[00:13:05] Okay, ready for a nice walkie one? When you were born, where your parents expecting a boy or girl. Discovered the degree of self-acceptance by your friend and his parent. Sure known self-acceptance was kind of big and I'd be here to talk to that one.

[00:13:23] Okay, and then this is funny to me. Okay, because every single question has a little blurb under it about why it's important. Here is the only one that doesn't have a blurb. Ready? What do you think the special responsibilities and privileges of men are?

[00:13:43] No blurb just to stand below. You're supposed to ask that question. Yes, you ask the guy. What do you think the special responsibilities and privileges of men are? I bet people got some wild answers to that question. Oh, you best believe they did.

[00:14:01] Did you ever ask these questions? No. Remember, I didn't court the whole way away. I started out that way but we had already known each other for like eight and a half years. Mm-hmm. So almost ten years.

[00:14:22] So like I knew his parents and parents and at our help of the meaning of his name, like, you know, a decade before. Then we have what do you think the special responsibilities and privileges of women are? Which does have a blurb.

[00:14:38] Discover whether he understands the purpose for which God made man and woman. Mm-hmm. Okay, here's another fun one. What do you think about a mother working outside the home? Oh, heavens no. Find out his understanding of the basis of fulfillment in life.

[00:14:59] You can't be fulfilled if you work outside the home. Ladies don't forget it. Shark as a Miller. Shark as a Miller. Also I fully support women who are stay at home moms if they want to be stay at home moms not because they were

[00:15:15] worse by society men or religion. Mm-hmm. They have my full unabashed support just for the record. And also women who want to go be the president of the United States have my full unabashed support.

[00:15:28] As long as they aren't core we're see there, I believe women should do what they want and need to do. Okay. Mm-hmm. All the patriarchy here is making me need to like get on a soap box and pontificate. Okay.

[00:15:39] What do you react to most in men or women? Learn the level of understanding of the opposite sex and his response to people of the opposite sex. Is that okay? So is that like do you like long curly hair or feet like what?

[00:15:58] Oh, what do you react to most in someone of the opposite gender? Hmm. I mean I guess that could be a traction. But we can't have a traction because that was murdered so vaguely. Yeah, I mean it is vaguely stated.

[00:16:16] It could be a physical attribute or a behavior or some sort of characteristic. Hopefully it's worth it on changeable. Sorry. You can't change it. All right. Then we have do you know what your spiritual gift is? Oh, spiritual gift. Because we have to visualize spiritual achievement.

[00:16:37] Are they saying you need to like have spiritual gifts that are complimentary to each other? I mean ideally yes. And again, because we can't be too nosy, you need to ask what is the most difficult experience that you have had in your life so far?

[00:16:55] So these are level one questions. Yep. These are all like the exceptions to the world because the definitions of level one was, You can't be so nosy. But now we're asking these questions. What do you think of the concept of a one woman man?

[00:17:14] Discover his commitment to purity and dating in marriage. Have I talked about one woman man and one man woman? It's where you're never supposed to be attracted to anyone except the person you marry, and you never like touch kiss, hold hands, have sex with,

[00:17:27] process romantic feelings for havermantic feelings for anyone except the person you marry. I mean I'm just surprised that there's a quality in that. What it is not just... Well this one says one woman man but the pastor of the culture,

[00:17:42] make sure he said one man woman too so that women knew they had a progressive of him. No it was to make sure women knew that they had to comply. Okay then we have the... What the fuck? You just keep going. What the fuck?

[00:18:01] I just didn't like twist it around like, oh they couldn't have had like any sense of like... a quality there's like oh we have a reason for this. Gonna make it seem like it's a good thing but not really. Correct. You're catching on.

[00:18:19] What is this the 46th episode? 46 or whatever it is episodes in like you're starting to get... I wouldn't say that. No big all ever understand or get it. That is why I'm very dear. Okay so then we have the unchangeable of birth order. Mm-hmm.

[00:18:40] What number child are you in the birth order of your family? Which could be like 22 who even knows in the cult? Uh yeah. Is there a right answer to this question? Oh not necessarily it's just... You ask it to discover your friends attitude toward firstborn, secondborn etc.

[00:18:58] Not if they've accepted within themselves where their birth order is but like do they respect to the people who came before them? Mm-hmm. What advantages or disadvantages do you see in your position in the family?

[00:19:13] Learn about his understandings of the responsibilities of the firstborn needs of the secondborn etc. Because the firstborn was like your perfect one, it was like the deputized parent and then the secondborn was like your wild and crazy one.

[00:19:29] So then you have to ask, do you often wish you had older brothers or sisters because you have to learn whether he has accepted his birth order? Okay. Because that's really important. Did you ever do like self-awareness questions? I don't know.

[00:19:46] Did you ever think about that growing up like your birth order and the responsibilities of the firstborn or anything like that? Did you ever wish you weren't the firstborn? Yes. Why? Specifically I'm curious. Well, I mean as a firstborn, the perfect one.

[00:20:06] You are the oldest and you do have more responsibilities because you're older just naturally and so I think you kind of naturally inherit those things where you have to be the responsible one. Kind of we're basically courting right now. I just realized it. And then I was horrified.

[00:20:28] So we'll move on. We can't do courtship questions. Okay. Brothers and sisters, your next unchangeable. How many brothers and sisters do you have? Which again could be anything from like 3 to 25 who knows?

[00:20:45] With which brother or sister do you have the closest relationship because you have to learn this scope of harmony in the family? What does that even mean? You aren't supposed to have a favorite sibling. You are also supposed to get along equally well.

[00:21:05] So that's the right answer to that question according to the call? Probably. Do you wish that you grew up in a larger or smaller family because you have to find out if he has accepted his family's size? Does everybody just say smaller? No, the godly ones would say,

[00:21:22] Oh, I wish god it blessed us with more children. Do you think that though as a kid in a large family? Do you think I would have more? Yeah exactly. And well, you're asking this a question to one kid to another or one, you know,

[00:21:39] you're not parents at that point. What one thing would you like to see changed in your family? Because you need to understand family needs and pressures and his response to them. What do you appreciate most about each brother and sister?

[00:21:54] Because you have to decide if he appreciates and is committed to family members. And then racial background. Okay. Everyone, I apologize in advance and I do not condone these questions. Okay. What advantages do you see and being born into your race?

[00:22:15] Because you have to see if this individual has accepted his race. I'm surprised it's worded that way. How do you view other races? That what I'm not surprised by. Is there a guide for that? Well, I just want to melt into the floor because the next question is,

[00:22:39] Do you see any special significance in the Jewish race? Oh, so they're calling one out, huh? Interesting. What different races do you have in your family tree? Learn how much your friend knows about his family heritage and the degree to which he accepts it?

[00:22:59] Those are the races part of the cult teaching. Yep. So let's just move right on. Oh, oh, to national heritage. Oh, got a lot of that up with the fight booth. Yeah. Where did you grow up? How often did you move?

[00:23:17] As you were growing up because you have to find out whether moves were viewed as opportunities or disruptions. So I don't understand, is they have questions like this and there. And then they went off and went to other countries like Australia in Russia. Yeah.

[00:23:36] New Zealand and Taiwan in Singapore and Malaysia. It's like what's the point? Well, because you're supposed to view a move as an opportunity. Which means you have a good attitude.

[00:23:48] If you view it as a disruption, you have a bad attitude and you're not accepting God's plan for your life. Through your parents who moved you. Then we have what special traditions does your family have.

[00:23:59] So you can learn the cultural practices of the family you're marrying into potentially. What nationalities are represented among your forefathers? You have to find out the cultural influences upon his life. What advantages or disadvantages you see and you're growing up experience.

[00:24:19] If you had your choice, would you want to live in any other country? Because you have to learn about his patriotism and possible interest in mission work. Okay. Hmm. I feel like that's a pretty common question within. Yeah. It's also like nationalism.

[00:24:39] Do you know the military, at least in the US actually does not teach nationalism? They don't teach us that America is better than everyone else. They teach us that America is away and it's a way that we like here.

[00:24:54] And I think that that's a much more balanced view. Hmm. I've heard you say that before. The nationalism. Anyways. So physical features. I'm going to try really hard to sense through myself through this because I feel like this would be a great time for me to make.

[00:25:10] And enormous amount of inappropriate comments. But I won't. We'll see. My plan is to not. I will see what you are. So you're a Satan's child, Amanda. That's it. Satan's daughter. According to the chart that elicinersen us that I posted in our stories that is disappeared by now.

[00:25:28] So I should probably post it somewhere more permanently. That was hilarious. Okay. If you had the power to change anything about the way you look, would you use it? Because you have to discover if there's self rejection. If you want to change anything about yourself, you're rejecting yourself.

[00:25:45] And we can't have that unless you don't look the way the quote wants you to look like then you better reject yourself. What are some of the physical characteristics that run in your family? If there is an obvious physical handicap, this question should not be asked.

[00:26:04] Is this just like the abort button? Like if there's a obvious physical handicap, you just. That's it. I don't know because there were different views on that.

[00:26:17] One of which was like, well, you have to like embrace this burden, the suffering, this trial that God is placed upon your family. Which was I think a very unhealthy way of looking at it. I think I've talked about that in previous episodes.

[00:26:32] So I don't know it's just probably like your level of godliness. What level of potential physical issues or medical issues you're willing to accept? Okay. So the godly or you are, but better.

[00:26:47] What spiritual significance have you attached to the physical defect to any physical defect you may have? Because you have to find out the maturity of yourself acceptance. Even though Bell removed defects from the women he liked and had sexual relationships with because they were distractions. Reference.

[00:27:10] Was that in God third girls or later like he had moles removed and braces if there was like a gap in their teeth and stuff because he didn't like the defects because they had to look perfect to be a God third girl.

[00:27:24] So his maturity of acceptance in general was pretty low. What special physical characteristics have you inherited from your father and mother and grandparents? You have to learn how aware he is a family characteristics. Now what exists, but how aware he is.

[00:27:42] So they just try not to figure out if they have like, is this something like talents or... No, these are all physical features. Okay. That's not where we're going to go. And then we have mental abilities, another interchangeable. Number nine already of the ten.

[00:28:02] What are your special interests in education? Because you have to find out his achievements and goals because you sure as act don't have any, but he probably does. Would you say that you are mechanically inclined because you need to know what skills he has for home repairs? Yes.

[00:28:19] But I thought I was the woman's job to keep the house. But this is mechanically inclined. This is too hard for women. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. This is the men's work. I see. Portion of life. Do you enjoy reading?

[00:28:35] What are some of your favorite books because you need to know what influences him? What education and training have you had? What job experience have you had? Do you have to learn his marketable skills and if he is diligently employed them?

[00:28:51] Because again, you are going to be dependent on his income alone or you are a bad wife. What Christian activities have you pursued in your life? How much scripture have you been able to memorize? Oh, geez. Because you have to learn if he's developing his mind.

[00:29:11] That was a very common question. And if he hadn't memorized Matthew 566 and 7, well, was he even godly? Propoply not. Okay. Aging and death. I don't know how to explain it again. So again, because we can't be too nosy, what major illnesses have you had?

[00:29:33] Because you need to find out about his physical health and strength. What are some of the medical tendencies in your family? She need to identify hereditary conditions. I'm trying to think that like, okay, so dance already, man, did this boy?

[00:29:54] And now you gotta go talk to them or as a girl, you've gotta go talk to this boy that you're never supposed to have a contact with before. Minimal contact with and then you're like, do you have a history of cancer in your family? Like, what?

[00:30:12] You can't be too nosy, Kyle. Oh, I'm very good at deeper level. Apparently. Have you ever had an experience where you almost died? This is very normal and dating. Guys, didn't you know this? Learn whether such an experience has increased his appreciation for the brevity of life

[00:30:33] and the need to make the best use of his time. We're Carter. Have you experienced the death of a family member or close friend? You discover his response to personal loss. Okay, and then, um, oh my gosh, let's see here.

[00:30:53] There's still a lot more to all of this. But let's wrap up with the definition of a date. Additional questions the dad should ask and preparation for engagement. Oh, okay. This is gonna be good. So the definition of a date according to the cult.

[00:31:17] When the emotions of a boy and a girl begin to be attached to each other, any activity together becomes a date. This includes a phone call, eating together, going to church together, sitting together in church and writing to each other. Everything's a date. Mm-hmm. A little spicy.

[00:31:39] A well, emails. You got a lot over there. Okay, additional questions a father should ask a young man who wants to date his daughter. Oh my god. Okay. Straight for beta straight from the book.

[00:31:56] The young man must understand that he is dealing with the father and not the daughter on dating arrangements. Of course. Keep in mind that he's in a like grown-ass people, usually, you know, like 20 somethings. Mm-hmm. But you're dealing with the father and not the daughter on dating arrangements.

[00:32:18] Okay. This is talking like logistics. I want to take her to dinner on Thursday night. She don't ask her. You got to ask dad. Mm-hmm. Okay. So thus, questions like the following are appropriate for the father to ask.

[00:32:34] One, is this something that we can do as a family? Because he got your face. She's all like video-guarant. I still like, I can't. I cannot think that like this is a transactional thing between a man and a woman.

[00:32:53] And it's like, how do we turn this date into a family activity like this? It's not how dating works. How will my daughter's life be benefited by this activity? I do justify trying to take her to the olive garden. Like, how does this benefit him, bro, for my...

[00:33:16] The breadsticks are really good. No, you're supposed to be doing godly projects together, Kyle. Oh no. And of course, finally, what time will you have my daughter home? Well, that's important. She is property after all. She has got to keep positive control over the property.

[00:33:34] Disavilians know what positive control means? Probably not. I just, like, just interpret for me, Kyle. It's civilian interpreter. I think most parents can have an idea of what that is. It's just like maintaining eye contact or... Yes. You're aware of where the kid is at all.

[00:33:57] I either hands on it. Positive control. Okay. Preparation for engagement. Oh, it is... it actually ends here with just this short statement. Important material is contained in the life notebook to assist fathers in preparing sons and daughters for engagement.

[00:34:19] So I guess we're not going to go into that right now. Yeah! That's how you use the ten-unchangeables to a Spanish inquisition-style grill your potential life partner. Who you don't know? Very well. And you can't like. Oh, and then just a final thought from Bill.

[00:34:40] It is essential in any friendship, especially dating and marriage that each party understand and apply the seven basic principles. Failure to do this will result in a sequence of conflicts. Such as the following. Consequences of self-rejection. Causing effect sequences. You've got female male and it's like a...

[00:35:04] A one-two. She is supportive too. He feels inferior and seeks outside approval. Then she becomes jealous and resentful. Then he becomes disillusioned with her. Then she puts on a pretense to please. Then he is insensitive to her extra efforts. Then she becomes insecure and magnifies needs.

[00:35:25] Then he becomes frustrated and tries to appease. Then she plans revenge and rejects him. Then he becomes violent or apathetic to her ungratefulness. Then she feels trapped and refocuses affections and he has attracted to other women to meet his needs. That escalated quickly. As it does. She just...

[00:35:47] We're just gonna cheat. That's the end of the road there. Yeah. So I have one question. I know from doing research and looking at cult materials. There are books that are for the kids. And then there's a separate book. Or at least in the ATI stuff.

[00:36:08] There was a separate book for the parents. Okay. Was there a book for the parents around courtship and dating that is outside of what's in this book? Probably. I don't remember. What's in your view, remember. Please jump in and answer Kyle's question. So that life notebook.

[00:36:31] But it reference briefly. Mm-hmm. That... I think that was something. And then I think there was something to prepare women to be godly little housewives. Of course. This one you lead into the seven basic needs. Is that part of this? Yeah. And like there were...

[00:36:50] There were ATI materials that were off limits to us kids. Mm-hmm. So I'm guessing that talked more about, you know, romance and marriage and stuff. Okay. I just realized that we still have the seven phases of a godly courtship. We could say that one for the next time.

[00:37:11] Let's not do that one. I can't do that one right now. This is really intense. Because it ends with the development of an immoral woman. Oh. There is no development of an immoral man, but there is development of an immoral woman. Of course. Oh, good grief. Okay.

[00:37:32] We'll address this later. Yep. If you want to learn how to develop yourself as an immoral woman, you'll have to tune back in. Alright, we'll wrap it up there. We'll be back with how to become an immoral woman next time. Alright. That's it for this week. Stay tuned.

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