41 - Wisdom Booklet #1

[00:00:01] Hi everyone, welcome to the Cult I Left Behind podcast. I'm your host Amanda Briggs and I'm here to tell you my stories of growing up in the IBLP cult Would you might know from the dugger family?

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[00:00:53] But then as the response is starting starting coming in I remembered why I even had the idea in the first place I think we have very emotionally a very emotionally intelligent listener base and the comments that came in

[00:01:10] Just the fact that our listeners recognized that it took a lot of trust in them to share that Reminded me why I shared it with them in the first place because they're the kind of people who recognize that that was a big deal

[00:01:23] That it took a lot of trust in them to do it, and then they just responded in such a loving And supportive way. I was really blown away and I'm glad I just decided to be brave and put that out there

[00:01:36] Yeah, you guys are awesome. I love you guys. It was a great episode definitely made me tear up listening to it after it was all said and done Had you heard all of those songs? I couldn't remember I had okay. Had you heard the 15 year old me singing

[00:01:54] Nope one okay Huh Interesting Hi darling. I used to sing Yeah, the newer the newer are the most recent songs I had heard the old one new to me So had you heard the ones about my family my bio family? I don't think so Okay

[00:02:18] Well, that's a whole thing Kyle. Well. I guess it's good that you also listened to that episode Now you know all of that about me too All right anything else about last week's episode for we dive into this week's

[00:02:32] No, just wanted to say thank you to everyone for having such lovely responses Yes, it is very much appreciated when we get kind words Definitely helps us keep going With the world Definitely with the vulnerable stuff So this week we are gonna dive into some IBLP

[00:02:54] Curriculum we're gonna do wisdom booklet one which I Took the time and read through a whole thing. I can't believe you did that Roodle It was When you had this idea, I thought you were just gonna skim you read the whole wisdom booklet for the most part

[00:03:14] There was parts of it and we'll get to it where I was just like okay, this is This is I'm not gonna read all of this But for though, I would say I read by 80% of it and then I skimmed I skimmed all of it. It was

[00:03:30] Was now what I was expecting What really? I Guess I was expecting it to be I guess more crazy just more off the wall stuff It was very heavily Christian Frederick if that's the right word There was not as much

[00:03:54] Learning stuff in there as I was expecting like I look at emic Yeah, cuz it is not what's supposed to be in here? Yeah, this is the basis of ATI like this is the curriculum Oh That's this is horrible because there was so little actual

[00:04:15] Schoolwork inside this booklet Like so pages was it I forget they like 50-ish Yeah, it was I think I still have it up somewhere. They is like 40 pages 30 pages And if I recall there are like 52 or something like a and you just cycle like when you finish them

[00:04:39] You just go back to the beginning and start over And that school Until you graduate high school But it never gets harder. There's not like a harder version of it I guess you're gonna have to find out Oh geez I don't remember

[00:04:56] Well, I'm curious to see if you remember any of this and there were definitely at least two parts in here that I was just horrified by And I'm curious if you remember that or if you did it Because it was like a Object do you remember the projects?

[00:05:13] Yeah, but I mean I don't remember which one goes with with some booklet number one so It's the most in booklet. The role lovely walk down memory lane for me No, I don't I don't remember with some booklet one. Does it start with like

[00:05:30] The sermon on the mount? Yep Okay Okay, wait hang on hang on So we need y'all in this shit. So I'm coming back to me now wait. I'm trying to remember how Matthew five Because it's five six seven that's the sermon on the mount

[00:05:53] I used to have it all memorized Wow What is the first verse though and seeing the multitude he went as into a mountain and when He had sat up into the mountain and when he has it like King Jamesy seated sat himself

[00:06:14] Yeah, pretty much stop and set on to that Something like I think you are the light of the world the city that is set out in a hill cannot be hid

[00:06:25] You are the salt of the earth of the salt has lost its saver where with shallot be salted it is then forth good for nothing But to be cast out and trot under the foot of men I think

[00:06:37] I think that's how it opens. It's like just you know, get right to it just dump stomp on it Yeah, I didn't even write it down because it the so the whizn book of one is sermon on the mount

[00:06:52] And yeah, it focuses primarily on Matthew five one so a lot of it just stops with and seeing the Multitudes he went up into a mountain dot dot dot Because remember he was a man. He needed his Bethel Stay that but it is true So

[00:07:13] Let's not damn peace and quiet Yes, so I went on to the IBLP website and this is the description On the IBLP store where you can still buy this

[00:07:25] Don't know but this is the description says this booklet is based on Matthew five one with the foundation being that God sees differently than we see Where the Lord Jesus showed alertness by being aware of what was taking place around him and how he responded with compassion

[00:07:41] And they get all this from in seeing the multitative who went up into a mountain It gets Okay, well, we get there So these alert people if you see folks going to the mountains like rule number one from the Bible

[00:07:56] Or you're not practicing the character quality of alertness So here's what we're gonna learn in wisdom book at one according to the IBLP website

[00:08:04] We explore how God relate spiritual vision to physical vision by learning the six muscles of the eye and the irregularities of our physical eyesight with a irregularities of our spiritual eyesight Oh, I'm so excited because your eggs is an optometrist right?

[00:08:21] So you probably know a ton about eyeballs You I started reading this and I was just like oh God this is The next thing we'll learn is we'll read I balls by the way I

[00:08:39] I can lovingly didn't you like help your ex study for everything and let her practice on you I can handle like bones sticking out of skin and blood everywhere, but eyeballs It's just right So it was not when y'all got divorced But it just goes

[00:08:57] No, yeah, I had to be the guinea pig during med school That was not my favorite part of that adventure So the second thing we will learn is we will read insights as to the areas where the

[00:09:10] Multitudes might have come from and how they were accounted for and next point The final point we will explore the geographical locations of Jesus' ministry And we will dive into the differences between how God and man see law

[00:09:29] So on the front cover we've got a couple points here the major concept God He's differently than we see yes Matthew 5 1 and seeing the multitudes he went up into a mountain The character focused you know this one alertness yes

[00:09:54] Alertness being aware of that which is taking place around me so I can have the right response to it Like I said And the theme song every book's got a theme song, right? It has a him doesn't it It does

[00:10:11] And it's isn't it the whole thing like written out with the chords and everything The she music Oh Which him goes with this one I don't remember Open my eyes that I may see Open my eyes that I may see visions of truth oh has for me

[00:10:32] place in my Is it hand the wonderful key that will something and set us free? silently now I wait for the ready my god they will to see Open my eyes a woman me spirit divine

[00:10:48] Did I mostly get it let's see here. I lost it. I don't know where it's that in here. Okay, I'm pretty good that's that I'm pretty sure they say yes, so

[00:11:00] Actually dive into the sermon on the mount says Matthew five through seven and starts with what is weird? It says like sermon on the mount You've got your alertness thing and then the first page is how to develop character qualities

[00:11:16] Like it seems like that's just thrown in there as a preface It completely throws off the whole flow of it, but anyways, it says how to develop character qualities number one There's nine parts number one Realize the importance of learning this character quality

[00:11:31] Which is alertness in this case There are three major reasons why we must learn character first it reveals the true nature of Christ He was the perfect fulfillment of each quality Second it is the basis for success in life and lasting achievement is not possible without it

[00:11:47] Third it explains why things happen to us Think we've gone over those one of the previous episodes before when we talked about character qualities, but The number two Memorize the operational definition definitions are oh

[00:12:04] Let me or are you about to say it or am I trying to remember it go for it? Oh, man. I remember a tenetiveness Attendiveness is showing the worth of a person by giving my undivided concentration to his words

[00:12:18] I used to always say or her word because even as a kid it bugged me alertness alertness I don't remember So I don't see it in here. It tells you that But it never says it doesn't define it well so this is what happens though is it

[00:12:40] It says well on the cover it said alertness being aware of that which is taking place around me So I can have the right response to it. Oh, that's the definition then yeah, and then it but in in this section in the book

[00:12:53] It says definitions are found in the character clues Yeah, yeah, okay So we have character sketches which is the three volume set that builds

[00:13:03] You know, rapy brother wrote in the north woods while raping women because that's a great way to just establish a baseline for writing books about character Just you know

[00:13:15] That was sarcasm by the way. I'm always so concerned because we have so many people from different cultures around the world But listen, I'm like this is sarcasm I got an message from someone say you guys laugh at stuff a lot are you being sarcastic? Yes, yes

[00:13:31] I promise so based on the three volume character sketches set then there was a character clues game that was like memory You know the memory game where you'd try to like remember and flip the cards over Yeah, yeah character clues to help you remember the

[00:13:48] To memorize all the definitions of the 49 character qualities saw that but I didn't look it up I'm gonna have to go find the character clues game. I'm curious what that looks like if someone wants to send that to me

[00:13:58] I would actually play it again just to see how many I remember if you just happen to have a copy of it I'll send you somewhere you can mail it and then maybe we'll record us playing it. Oh, Kyle could have to memorize all of the 49 character qualities

[00:14:14] It'll be great trouble Bonnie. Wouldn't that be a wonderful date night activity Kyle? No Definitely not this is a horrible idea. Where are you? I'm sorry I T I of course this is the foundation of my education. Kyle

[00:14:33] So yeah, says definitions are found in the character clues game and they are also expanded in the character sketches books The third way to develop character qualities is identify the quality in scripture number four Expand with synonyms and antenms number five balance with related qualities

[00:14:51] Number six list win and where the quality is to be used Subtitle here alertness is a foundational character quality to learn Number seven design guidelines to learn the quality Number eight turn problems into character classes Number nine evaluate progress at the end of the week

[00:15:15] Place the names of all family members and I had have each family member draw a name and answer the following questions oh no So it has a whole bunch of questions and I feel like most of them were pretty innocent

[00:15:29] Like example one of them is how was the character quality of the week demonstrated by that family member Like it's just a bunch of those types of questions. Do you remember like doing this was this like a real exercise? I don't I

[00:15:43] Do not regular what do people say in court? I have no recollection. I know I do not recall Like Jim Bob I do not recall

[00:15:53] I don't I honestly don't remember if we did that that sounds right it also sounds like pitting siblings against each other which you know sounds right So yeah, I was curious if that was something you actually did because I know you're the type to like

[00:16:09] Follow the book and do exactly everything it says and like make sure you check off every part of the exercise And so I was curious if you like took that to heart and we're like everybody draw a name out of the hat

[00:16:20] And we're gonna do these character quality. I don't remember that but I do remember developing a game To try to get my younger brothers to behave Okay, there was oh what's the Bible verse like it's like as apples of golden pictures of silver So are like

[00:16:40] Parafraising kind words spoken of it's it's basically saying like say nice things to each other or something like that Be kind to each other so I developed a game where every time My younger brothers were kind to each other or said nice things to her about each other

[00:16:56] They got like their gold apple sticker thing that I put on the board thing that I made for the game It didn't like they didn't like it They didn't like my game which makes you know I feel like that's a valid reaction So it was very short lived

[00:17:14] So I remember that but I don't remember like pulling names out of a hat and Saying how that person was alert that week. I'm I'm sure we did it, but I don't remember it so after

[00:17:26] That it just dives right into a wisdom quiz like before any like context of the book It's just like let's start with the quiz yes, he is a person or a possible Then reasonable and you've probably memorized Matthew five six and seven by now and your five

[00:17:45] So there's ten questions here are you gonna quiz me Do you want people I wasn't gonna read all of them? I don't know so they're all true false questions

[00:17:57] Okay, that's all out the couple weird ones. Okay, then do that I don't I would probably fail this quiz now Well, you can try to answer the two that I found interesting So question number four in this quiz is

[00:18:13] When Jesus saw the multitudes he was aware of each individual but he gave special attention to them in true or false Well, like this is the patriarchy right so yes because yes

[00:18:34] Cool of course true it was that I looked in the answer key. It is true funny enough The way I am oh this is why I'm doing therapy

[00:18:46] So what do you know the the copy of this that I found online because I didn't buy this I found on someone close to their online They answered false so they're with you. They're not I don't know who it was but they also didn't agree with this

[00:19:03] So it says read Matthew 1421 what direction does this give us for whether we should concentrate on men women or children in the ministry So I definitely feel like leading you down that path of well Jesus was You know, none the most

[00:19:22] We care about men the most and so Matthew 1421 says Those who ate were about 5,000 men not counting women in children So that's how they're on the ground. Yep. Yeah, yeah because we just know how many men are there This is fine

[00:19:46] I think I'm gonna start making a game of counting women everywhere I go So How many women are there so number is the act of rebellion

[00:19:57] So let's just read number five because maybe it's interesting now by going up into the mountain Jesus established his rights to be in an elevated position over the piece I So we Kyle Kyle when we ran off to live in the mountains

[00:20:18] Did that mean we were like elevating ourselves to positions of power from the middle of nowhere I mean it's in the Bible Kyle and but more importantly it's him was in booklet number one So the other interesting question was number six

[00:20:38] Christ established a precedent by going up into the mountain to transmit God's laws to men True or false Is this yes because Men need their battle The answer is false actually what and Let me double check this I have the answer keys pulled up here

[00:21:04] somewhere yeah that is false why It seems very off-brand for ATI This is what does this tell us about the importance of using the examples of the old testament as the pattern for our ministry now?

[00:21:20] Okay, okay, I'm feeling so validated right now because I remember being a kid sitting in the living room Listening to these books thinking like this doesn't make sense. I did like nothing in this makes sense

[00:21:34] Hmm, I don't I don't get it what am I missing and I thought it was a me problem was bill problem Hold time did the cult really focus on like old testament stuff. Oh Yes I I'm trying to remember and and hopefully I'm not incorrect here

[00:21:57] Right, I feel like I remember when I was in church like you would read stuff in the old testament And then there would be something contradictory in the new testament and it was always well that was old testament That was you know

[00:22:10] Whatever reason like we threw that old testament stuff out because it's in the new testament But yeah, yeah, but this question is saying Use the old testament as a pattern for your ministry

[00:22:24] Because the old testament was a lot more impressive so that just like fit those personal narrative and agenda Much better we can't have freedom Kyle. No definitely keep it up wall So Here's where we get into the educational portion of wisdom

[00:22:45] So is there like a dissected picture of an eye Is that where the truth I think yes, there is I'm team Kyle and this that creep me out a lot as a kid

[00:22:58] We had to like trace it and draw it when they when Chris didn't know what to do with us She would have his trace pictures from the wisdom booklet Anyways, that's yep. I can like see that image. It's burned in my brain

[00:23:12] Yeah, it like it's weird. So was the worksheet on Matthew 5 one alpha? I guess they're talking about the The beginning of 5 one and the and seeing the multitude's question is What they're focusing your learning on is that phrase and so I

[00:23:34] Yeah, I mean there's a there's a picture of just like it looks like a picture from like a concert Whether it's just People everywhere. It's like a warehouse wall dough pitcher and it says estimate the number of people in this picture Like

[00:23:52] I was that supposed to help anybody Like What because I mean It this is like a true warehouse wall dough pitcher

[00:24:02] I'm not sure I could count all of the faces in here because there it looks like a concert and there's just people stacked on top of each other I guess you're not godly enough Kyle? Yes, so the the categories of learning are linguistics history science

[00:24:21] law and medicine so the the linguistics part just has definitions for to see multitude and mountain because that's from the verse

[00:24:33] And it's just he just you the Greek depth like it teaches he out of say it in Greek and it's got the Greek really need to know that It's very important in the The history part just goes over Mount Sinai Yeah, like the

[00:24:53] Okay, the signal because I'm in historically yeah Wonderful so that I mean I'm talking this is like it says what was the historical significance of Jesus going up into the mountain to preach Moses went up into Mount Sinai and 1491 BC they received gods laws

[00:25:11] Jesus went up into a mountain in 831 to clarify the meaning of the law and to show his disciples how they could apply its teachings to their everyday lives Like that's that's it that is your history lesson for the day Yes

[00:25:28] I was surprised that like 30 pages is not a long book and if you just take the actual educational portions out of this book it's like It's two pages Yes, it's got it's got the and the scene the multitudes the linguistics and the history on one page

[00:25:47] Science law and medicine are on another page and that's Hmm That's pretty much it So what keep going here we get into the science section it says seeing Information about eyes myopia hyperopias or business all this other eye conditions

[00:26:10] Yeah, this is where it's got like the dissection of the eye and it's got you know the Parts of the eye or the muscles in the eye that's probably the most educational thing in here Oh, the eye

[00:26:23] Yep, and then it's it talks about what you know what myopia hyperopias for business Presbyopia are Are any of them caused by bitterness? Yeah, I don't think I saw bitterness. I can hear it here though

[00:26:39] I when I was on the iBlb website earlier today looking for the the answer sheet and getting the definition for the booklet There was a bit like a bitterness seminar something they were promoting

[00:26:53] Like it's relevant like recent like that's a new thing. They're still doing and I noticed that the Booklet you were to buy this online you can you can like see a sample of it So I like to do on that in the copyright for it was from 2021

[00:27:08] Yeah, they read But I looked it up and they they barely changed anything Yeah, I what I saw versus what I'm looking at here which seems to be much older it looks like it's the same Same information

[00:27:24] So the law section is how do mountains illustrate characteristics of God's law? The permanency of God's law the mountains will pass away but God's word will live forever Luke 1670 Because it's really gonna help us understand the judicial system in the United States

[00:27:43] Hmm, you just have to know God's laws above You know the law of whatever country you're in that's That's all there is to know Until here is Supreme Court justice

[00:27:55] Remember this that's what this is preparing you for or you know you have to go out into the world and still abide by those laws of whatever country or city you're in Yeah, so the medicine section

[00:28:08] How do the things we see affect our physical strength our physical strength is directly affected by our vision There's an example about a child so here's it'll make sense in a second So there's an example about a man seeing a child in a window of a burning house

[00:28:27] And the chemical reaction that would occur to release adrenaline to cause us to become stronger until the dangerous resolve So it's going like straight into like the fight or flight response and like that

[00:28:40] But that's how they're tying like sight to physical strength is that if you see danger your body reacts And increases your physical strength so like that was also you can send stranger even if your eyes don't work So I Belm yeah

[00:28:58] Can you just see the people who wrote this like sitting around a conference room table Like how do we tie this off you see something and then you react? Yes, this is medicine wait This is the dumbest Yep Okay, I'm not traumatized by any of this

[00:29:24] There's one little small paragraph here that says how does living on a mountain increase blood circulation And it tells you like how much your blood circulation Increase at different elevations and it's got like a picture of a mountain and then it goes into the whole thing about

[00:29:41] The air sacks and the lungs and how that oxygen penetrates the membranes and releases it in the bloodstream But like it literally all of the learning stuff in here is like one to two sentences and that's it

[00:29:54] In like going through normal schooling or even in college like nothing is that Seat if you're learning at topic it's usually a couple pages or a couple paragraphs at least if it's not a whole chapter and like in this

[00:30:10] It's just two to three sentences and then you move on and Speaking of moving on that's it we're on to the resource quiz What is this on way at the flow of this and just how short everything was it was just like bam, bam, bam, done

[00:30:33] What's the resource quiz I forget how many of these questions can you answer before studying the resources because again? You have to take a quiz before you learn anything So it's got a couple different topics here. It is why must Christians learn math Christian

[00:30:53] I was the subject like Not why should people learn math But Christians yeah, how was the pain more powerful than the sword how is discernment distinguish from judgment Why are there different languages what geographic areas did the multitude represent and how does physical vision relate to spiritual vision

[00:31:17] Oh one more and how does site affect strength So those are like the topics and When you get into it under like the first point why must we learn mathematics number one to discover the nature of God

[00:31:36] Can we have a moment of silence at the end of this episode for my education? Everybody's gonna be bought into a by the time we get there because for this is We're in the math mathematics specific section why must we learn mathematics

[00:31:51] So to discover the true nature of God you have three division problems And this is 55 No, it just says when Jesus fed the 5000 he first organized the multitudes in the groups of hundreds and 50s

[00:32:11] How many groups what they're have been if each group consisted of 100 people how many groups were there be so it's just like 5000 divided by a hundred by your answer if each group consisted of 50 people 5000 divided by 50

[00:32:27] If half the people were seated in groups of 100 and half the people were seated in groups of 50 That's it That's that's your learning for the day How many division or how zero I read that entire section that was it? Remember studying this wisdom booklet

[00:32:48] Before I had reached whatever grade you learned multiplication and division and like I didn't know what to do with that so I just like sat there all my older siblings did the math problems All of them are pretty horrible like this they're just

[00:33:06] Very short very basic there's not much to it Someone who jumped down to the next section. How is the pen more powerful than the sword? We've got some examples around the battles of Trent and Princeton I don't know if you remember those

[00:33:21] Was the first real successes of Washington's campaign when it and this is the point which he read the crisis poem by Thomas Pain that's the poem that says these are the time that tribe in souls

[00:33:34] Oh yeah, I've got a yada and it's the take away from this is that without these words Washington and his mid may have failed the battle And that's why you please remind me how this relates to Jesus going into the mountains to teach the multitudes

[00:33:55] It's a good question I don't know Exercise below this you're learning for the day for this is to learn antinins and sit in him's And it's got a couple of little Sarah

[00:34:11] So the next the next the next one is how is discernment distinguished from judgment and you've got a project Oh, I do do I this is the this was probably the most crazy thing I saw in the book it I was

[00:34:27] Horrified and I wanted to hope you actually did this or if your family did this Okay, let's just project to how to develop the spiritual skill of seeing people as Jesus saw them and this is what it says for Betham

[00:34:41] As a family drive to a busy supermarket park near the entrance so that you can observe from your car Those who enter and leave the store try to be as inconspicuous as possible Right down all you can for each of the following points general observations general distinctions specific

[00:35:00] Perceptions precise discernments and mature comprehension Does it define what any of that means in this context? It's got a couple examples so general observations are things that are obvious and without question General distinctions are relationships and conditions that are obvious from the initial observations specific perceptions

[00:35:25] Inward attitudes that are reflected from outward evidences precise discernments is basic needs that are obvious from the observations distinctions and perceptions And mature comprehension is understanding the causes and relationships between outward symptoms inward attitudes and basic needs and suggesting

[00:35:47] steps to remove the root cause of problems and they have like an example and but like that's it For example on the mature comprehension it says the little boy does not honor his father Perhaps the father has broken the boy spirit by disciplining him and anger

[00:36:03] That's rich coming from a really physically abusive environment Like general observations would be I observed a woman walking toward the store I noticed they she was wearing a blue dress I also noticed that she carried a large brown purse

[00:36:22] I observed that the woman held the hand of a little boy I noticed that the boy was crying how is this helpful? I don't know anything but the concerning part to me was that it was like as a family go get in the car and go

[00:36:38] Creep on people walking into the supermarket but be it? Yeah, it's about it while you're all like you know all 15 a.m. you are in the van Steering out the window at the front door the supermarket for an hour I mean a family of 15 would be

[00:36:55] in the upper echelons of holy Not not top tier, but you know closer than the family of 10 I grew up in So I don't remember And we might have done this but I don't remember specifically like going and sitting somewhere and doing this project is a family we

[00:37:18] Anywhere we went Rechem particular was super judgey about everyone and he would comment on the weirdest stuff like see that guy Walking into the gas station look at how he's walking. He obviously has to go to the bathroom like I still remember that

[00:37:34] Don't don't remember the guy walking weird But according to your rig and it was like shaming this guy because he had to go to the bathroom Like that's just the thing humans have to do we got to go the bathroom

[00:37:46] It's a problem if we don't but this guy like well based on how he was walking He obviously had to get to the bathroom How dare he and Just like random this is a weird thing for you to remember that like that was such a I remember wondering

[00:38:05] I remember wondering why the fuck it was important To know that like leave the poor guy alone Like why are we sitting here judging him Because he's moving quickly toward the rest stop or the gas station stop thing like

[00:38:23] Yeah, why is that something more commenting on why is it something worth? Noticing like It was it wasn't about safety and like awareness stuff That's just important in life in general. It was always super judgey stuff about other people that

[00:38:43] Riquit you know draw our attention to I mean I can see if you're Pre-reading these wisdom booklets and it's like you need to be super attentive to like watching people and

[00:38:53] All of it looks like very borderline creepy to me. It wasn't just like learn how to read those boxes in language and like To the key to be able to appropriately Yeah, like it wasn't like that it you know

[00:39:06] If you were trying to learn something innocent I wouldn't tell you go go Sit at the park your car inconspicuously in the in the grocery store parking lot and watch people Have you noticed that that's a thing that

[00:39:19] I BLP families were routinely encouraged to do though because remember in the modest you stuff It said like go with your dad to the airport or the mall or another busy area and then judge women's clothes But if they're modest you're modest and they're eye traps and

[00:39:32] Why they might be wearing that and what they should do to be more modest and like so this is

[00:39:37] I guess I'm like not even blinking about this because the concept of going out into the world and harshly judging people was just a normal thing in the cult so The next section is the why are there different languages section

[00:39:55] After the flood no one is family began to repopulate the earth all of their descendants spoke the same language Rather than circulating throughout the world they laid the foundation for a highly developed city later known as babbles

[00:40:07] Godless humanism with his worship of a astrology became the motivating force of the system with their great intellectual abilities The people decided to build a huge tower which would reach up to the heaven their actual purpose was to design an

[00:40:22] Observatory from which to explore the heavens for evil purposes I mean evil purposes God realized that nothing would restrain them from achieving their imaginations Therefore he said let us go down and their Confound their language that they may not understand one another's speech Genesis 117

[00:40:44] And it goes on to talk your your lesson for the day goes on to talk about the 12 major languages and where they're from Like a resident what continent they're from and like that type of information like nothing Nothing crazy

[00:41:02] It's been too much time on that the next section is what geographic areas did the multitude represent There's a ton of information about the location and movements of Jesus there's a couple math problems around calculating

[00:41:17] Distances based on those biblical stories in the area does it tell you anything about how do you math problems? This time or is it do you the math problem? Who's do the math sounds right? Yep next section is how does physical vision relate to spiritual vision?

[00:41:33] Yeah, this is over back to the eyeballs It talks about myopia which is near-sided vision and the inability of the eye to focus on distant objects And the spiritual counterpart of myopia is me vision

[00:41:48] It is near-sided view of life that focuses only on the things that affect me Hyperopia which is far-sided Christians who suffer from Spiritual hyperopia are those who over vision they overlook the needs of those who are close to them Especially those of their own family members

[00:42:07] Like you're family at hyperopia Amanda Maybe just little Next we got strip is miss which is the lazy eye is That's a commonly known Spirituals to a business takes place when we have one eye focused on the Lord and the other eye focused on the world

[00:42:28] What's more important in you lazy eye? That's horrible Was I was like oh no Isn't that a fairly common medical condition if I look correctly Lazyness to one eye usually yeah, and if I remember correctly and it's been a minute

[00:42:48] Because I use to actually do vision therapy for kids. I feel like Stribusiveness is one that actually be corrected if you Do vision therapy at a young age Yeah, it's exactly what it is you just work in that muscle

[00:43:02] But if I remember correctly to work your spiritual muscle then Correct your spiritual lazy eye Hi So last one is the stigmatism which is irregular vision

[00:43:17] This abnormality results when the cornea has a lumpy surface or when the cornea is shaped more like a football rather than a perfect sphere Spiritual stigmatism is a condition from which we all suffer because of our fallen nature Adam and Eve saw clearly every object as well as

[00:43:33] As well as the glory of God when they sin something happened to their eyes They no longer saw as they once did Stump stitch that's it Yeah, that's it. That never like circles back to like make their point about the last Statement okay Okay, we'll just speak infused

[00:43:55] This is this is the last part of wisdom booklet one how does site affect strength In the face of an emergency decisions must be made clearly and quickly in the body must be brought to Full alert without delay both conditions are accomplished simultaneously by the body's nervous system

[00:44:14] The central nervous system handles the decision making and the autonomic nervous system prepares the body for action It goes into this whole story about a man seeing an 1800 pound pipe falling on a boy's head like the kid was playing with

[00:44:28] Pipe or something and his 1800 pound pipe falls on the kid's head and The man just had heart surgery and his doctor told him that he'll never be able to lift everything's again like this whole

[00:44:42] Sub story and in this man sees this pipe fall on this kid's head and you can miraculously pick up the pipe off this kid's head and That's the world of the story

[00:44:54] So why was we be alarmed every time we see sin by being alarmed every time we see sin We benefit from the adrenaline which our bodies release as well as from the power

[00:45:08] Which the Holy Spirit gives to resist temptation with this physical and spiritual power through our positioning Christ we are able to either flee or stand fast when evil comes according to scripture

[00:45:20] There are times when the believer is the flee. There are also times in the believer is the first stand firm And there's a bunch of scriptures for each and it has you do this little exercise like which scripture should you flee

[00:45:32] Which one should you stay in firm and that's oh? I remember I was saying I'm sure That's that's yeah how side effect strength because that makes sense Feel again highly educated at this point. Yeah

[00:45:49] I think that's the thing that was most shocking to me was just how little depth there was to the lessons Yeah, because they didn't have educators involved Yeah, just a bunch of people The concepts are too Complex for this to be for like small children

[00:46:10] You wouldn't be talking about like muscles of the eyes and hyperopia and that kind of stuff with the you know a five-year-old But the way the lessons are worded they're like so simplified that like it is for a first-grader

[00:46:26] So it like the whole thing was just shocking and I was just like this is so Blackluster and there was like a couple crazy projects in there, but that's that's it. That's wisdom book at one and this is Amanda's education Unfortunately yeah, yeah, yeah

[00:46:44] If I could do shots right now It'd probably be doing some shots right now That's like really horrifying to go back because like it's one thing to go through The AGI homeschooling system and realize wow this doesn't make sense or

[00:47:04] This doesn't seem sufficient for my education. It's another thing to go back and Revisit the curriculum and realize like that was it I had Google and do Khan Academy and like basically re-learn everything

[00:47:22] Yeah, I mean it's too amazing that those were the math lessons you were learning and then you all To million it up having to do astrophysics for your job Yeah, it's like how does one person get from Such a simplified version of

[00:47:39] Basic math like that was just division and basic algebra that was It there was there was like one section there where it like solve for x But it was like very rudimentary algebra that was as complex as the math equations got which is if I remember correctly

[00:47:56] I took algebra and sixth grade Great and then at a bunch of more math classes after that but like that was sixth grade Yeah, so like I mean, I would go as far as saying like that's About as far as this education goes

[00:48:23] Content-wise the delivery of it. It's horrible With zero teaching there was nothing explaining of like how do you do division? There was nothing in there about that did you have like Supplemental materials or like how are you supposed to even figure out

[00:48:39] Yeah, we had a back of book Materials which are bullshit and then Chris Chris taught us multiplication and division But that was it like that was the extent of what she could teach and It's like a brand of

[00:49:01] Home schooling curriculum that was very crisp it was Christian it was white washed it was in accurate it was Yeah, not great and So I had that and then when I got to algebra we used Saxon math textbooks

[00:49:21] It didn't really teach you how to do anything because the way they were meant to be used was you had an Instructor who taught you how to do the problems and then the Saxon textbooks were just

[00:49:33] Hundreds of reps doing the problems so I taught myself because I had the teacher answer key So I would look at how The problem was solved and like

[00:49:45] Work work it backwards like reverse engineer it to figure out how to do the problem in the first place and then practice I would do all of the like you know hundreds of problems

[00:49:57] To try to make sure I understood how it worked and what was going on and how to do it properly But I didn't have a teacher like Amy helped me sometimes but Chris couldn't and this was before the days of The internet and stuff so

[00:50:12] Yeah, I just reverse engineered the answer guide Wow That mean that takes a lot of time too. It's one thing It takes time to learn that stuff anyways even if you have a teacher trying to reverse engineer it and you have no idea what you're doing

[00:50:31] Good. Oh, yeah, I mean it was just a shot in the dark and then I would get it right and I'd be like I do that and that's why I would do all the reps because I didn't know how I got in it right

[00:50:41] Usually until I'd done like dozens of Problems and then I started to figure out like okay, it's because you know this order of operations or whatever Yeah, I don't recommend cults for educational purposes Nope Wow, we should start this down cult Oh We do his math

[00:51:03] Science well that was it. I'm sorry if it was lackluster The book is horrible I don't like at this point did we go through the other ones there's how many you wisdom booklets? 50 something like if they're all that bad I don't know if I can handle it

[00:51:22] I don't know if I can handle that I don't know if the listeners can handle that either that was Roodle

[00:51:31] There's just nothing in there and I was paraphrasing a lot of it and there was more context a lot of it was just like religious stuff in there with versus and tying it back to to versus A lot of like Christian rhetoric in there

[00:51:46] But I've done that. I actually called out and verbatim went through with this part They were supposed to be educational so that's horrible So I guess at all that being said like let's take a moment of silence for Amanda's lack of education at the

[00:52:04] ATI homeschooling curriculum. Okay, we'll be back next Monday Have a good week everyone Thanks for listening to another episode of the cult. I left behind and till next time Don't join a cult if you enjoyed this podcast

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